Annie Rauwerda
Asterisk: You’re famous for the Depths of Wikipedia account, where you share factoids from some of the most arcane, interesting, and surprising pages on Wikipedia. But you’re also now a part of the broader Wikipedia community. How did you first get interested in the site, and how has your involvement changed over time?
Annie Rauwerda: I started back in high school editing typos and adding things that I noticed were missing — like items to lists. But I had never done anything more than that because I was afraid of it because there are so many rules. Like, I’d seen the talk pages. And many of Wikipedia’s policies and guidelines and essays are very wordy.
Then I started the account — even though I felt a little like a phony. But I remember the first time I felt really excited about the Wikipedia community was when I got on a call with the president of Wikimedia, New York City, back in 2020. And she had told me about a guy named Jim who retired from working at the phone company. He worked in that big AT&T building that doesn’t have windows. I don’t know exactly what he did in there — but cables and stuff. Anyway, he’s retired now, and he spends all day biking around New York City and taking photos of infrastructure for Wikipedia, because Google Maps photos — and so many other photos — aren’t freely licensed. And I was like, that’s amazing.
So I kept hearing about more and more individual people and their shticks. There are a lot of generalists who edit Wikipedia, but there’s something so endearing about the people who have just one thing. That’s the first time I got excited. That was when I was brave enough to start making bolder changes and writing my own articles.
A: Wikipedia’s tagline is the “free encyclopedia, created and edited by volunteers around the world,” which makes it sound like a cohesive, happy little family. But as you alluded to, there’s a lot of rules. It’s intimidating to write articles. Is it actually the case that there is a Wikipedia community, or is it more accurate to talk about communities within Wikipedia?
AR: The answer is both, of course, but when people talk about Wikipedia as a decision making entity, usually they’re talking about 300 people — the people that weigh in to the very serious and (in my opinion) rather arcane, boring, arduous discussions. There’s not that many of them.
There are also a lot of islands. There is one woman who mostly edits about hamsters, and always on her phone. She has never interacted with anyone else. Who is she? She’s not part of any community that we can tell.
But then there are hundreds of thousands of editors on English Wikipedia. And within that there are very specific communities that are really interesting. There’s the military history WikiProject. Maybe this makes sense because of the whole military thing, but they are very hierarchical. They have a lot of rules. They’re very efficient in reviewing articles. Also Wikipedia has a pretty outdated rating system for articles — one of which just got deprecated when “Featured Articles” and “Good Articles” became a thing — except for in military history, because that community was like, well, we need to have every level.
The same thing is true of the tropical cyclones community. They also do a lot of reviewing, and they also tend to skew very young. It’s a lot of teenage boys in tropical cyclones. There’s also a very strong anti-vandal community, who similarly skew very young.
A: Before I had Wikipedia friends, I did not really understand how many different silos there were.
AR: So many. There are acronyms that I hear that I do not know. The anti-vandal people especially are really off in their own world. One of the most effective, consistent, long serving anti-vandalism patrollers is not a teenager. He’s a PhD-level material scientist who used to write very high quality articles about chemicals. And then he just got too upset about vandalism and decided “I have to devote hours of my life — even though I have a family and a really demanding job — to this.”
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